Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Frank
got yu!!!!!!!!.
my christmas card to you all............ try clicking on the raindeer!.
qwerty
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Frank
now, please remember, jw my entire life.
therefore, many prejudiced and warped ideas.. the deal is that a very nice co-worker invited me to a 'christmas play' at her baptist church and i accepted.
the play is tonight, and i have all these messed-up ideas that perhaps it's wrong to step foot into another church; or that perhaps since i've been taught all my life that demons reside in the false religion churches that i'll be bothered by these demons if i attend this event tonight.. please, help me win over these live-long thoughts.
..A building by any other name is just another building... ( paraphrased from; Shakespear? Artisitic license, please)
Go, and enjoy yourself. You may be pleasantly surprised.
Frank
ok, here's a problem that i am looking for a little advice with.
my fiance is an ex jw and his parents (and other family members) are still practicing.
they have pretty much totally cut him off since he moved in with me.
Hi smurfy, and congratulations
I could not have said it any better than Mortons68; I think her advice is on the mark.
It will be such a happy day for both of you, and you should both have everything you want, even if it includes a religious service.
You will always have to live with your decisions, and if the extended family decides not to attend, they will have to live with their decision. The important thing for you is that HE is supportive of you.
The JW teachings promote selfishness and intolerance. Blood relations have no bearing. You can rise above that ( and show THEM a good example) by including his family in the invitations. But please do not let them dampen your enjoyment of the day if they do not attend. Move on with your life and let them see that their intolerence, and their lack of judgement, will not affect you.
Good luck, and make sure you enjoy your reception!
Frank
obviously, mine is a picture of me.....it was taken at a hockey game at staples center: go kings!
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odrade has a very pretty picture and i was wondering if that was her or a character from a movie?
thanks tink, I am going to try to post some Xmas and New years pictures and will take your advice
whats the crack with them?
how do you feel about them?
a drop in the bucket that doesnt hurt anyone?
this has been an exhaustive thread... but I agree...we wait for the dust to settle-and hopefully we all have better things to do with ourselves and our lives to be concerned about this.
If Caspian is who he says he is---than I wish him well and that he resolves his issues ( we have all been there) May he come back to post as an ex JW with some support and encouragement to offer.
And if he is not, well then life will take care of him in a less kindly way. As for the rest of us, we will go on.
I propose a toast to all of us Ex Jws out there who are still looking for the good in any situation ---may we all find what we are looking for.
***clinque***
frank
obviously, mine is a picture of me.....it was taken at a hockey game at staples center: go kings!
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odrade has a very pretty picture and i was wondering if that was her or a character from a movie?
mine is a picture taken last year in the living room of my house and was the only one I had online to use for this forum.
can someone give me instructions how to post pictures with a thread?
Frank
I can see the picture and it is spectacular! what a view! and to think you can see that every day from your beach....
and I will even share my Merlot with you
regards, Joy
Frank
there's every reason to believe the watchtower watches this place and similar ones around the globe.
they tell witnesses the internet is evil but they watch what goes on here.
they are true hypocrites!
You can question me too, Minimus...although my words might be slanted far more "con" than "pro" these days, I do try to keep an open tolerant mind, but sometimes it is difficult.
I would like to write a tell all book about " My life as a JW". It would have to be a humurous book ( sort of like a joke book). It would be tiltled "Et tu Brute (alias, JW friend) or " Who will cast the first stone?" Or maybe " My life as a pioneer...no horse or wagon"
"Trolls", or "Plants"......its all nonsense.... If they are here , so what? Let us raise a glass and celebrate some good holiday cheer!
(see how far I have come!)
smile, Frank
when i read the title of the thread ?was your growth stunted because you were a jehovah?s witness?, i posted a version of the following while extremely emotional.
not taut, very loosely, as if it feels like a necklace.
you see, i am growing and the cord is getting taut now.
Hi, One_ugly_time, welcome to the forum, and thank you for sharing your story with us
I related to your post, I too, was raised as a JW, and although my parents were nurturing and loving ( to the extent allowed) they were under the same restrictions . I grew up with the same feelings of insecurity, and had a terrible time breaking away. Like Purple V, I spent time in therapy and deprogramming . It has been 25 years for me. It took many years for that fog to lift, but it does. And life will move on if you let it.
I found that making new friends and having new experiences helped immensly. And always keep a positive mental attitude. The further we move away from the negativity that we left in the WT, the easier it becomes
You have many supporters on this forum, keep posting. There is encouragement in numbers.
regards,
Frank
there's every reason to believe the watchtower watches this place and similar ones around the globe.
they tell witnesses the internet is evil but they watch what goes on here.
they are true hypocrites!
Minimus,
Some of us are beyond their ability to threaten. The WTBTS is nothing more (to those of us who have distanced it in our lives) than Ed Mcmahon and his "clearing house sweepstakes" claims. ( aren't you tired of seeing those TV commercials?) Do you know of anyone who ever won that sweepstakes? Do you know of anyone who has ever lived forever?
I remember when I was newly "outside the organization", and struggling emotionaly, spiritually and mentally to make sense and direction of my life. It was a difficult time and there was no forum such as this to come for encouragement. But I did survive, and my life moved on. For those posting who are in that position, remember to not look back at what the WT offered, because it is not in YOUR best interest. And most importantly, the WTBTS cannot harm us unless we "empower" them to do so.
It is, quite simply, all in our minds. They do not have any teeth, like a secular government, no guns, police or soldiers. They cannot force us to do anything we do not want to do. So when you see it from that perspective; you realize that you must move forward and beyond their ability to influence. I am sorry for those who have loved ones or families who still believe, it is a difficult situation, and I can offer encouragement for them.
And yes, I agree with you that there are "plants" on this forum from WT, I am not surprised that they do not have more theocratic things to do. And I do not doubt that they are counting time with it too. I do not think they are interested in parties like me--I am beyond their interest But I do believe they are "netting" for prospects.
Funny, that they would resort to lurking or even "masquerading" as a poster ; sort of justifies their own penchant for espionage and their belief that the whole world wants to persecute them for their faith; etc. When really, the whole world just considers them another middle tier, meddling religion; to be tolerated like so many others.
So for those who could get snared in their net; and this being an anonymous forum ( for some) ; discretion is prudent.
"...I have learned the Truth, and the Truth has set me free...."
Frank